The Magic's signing of Chicago native Quentin Richardson on Monday
may have ramifications on
whether Orlando matches
the Bulls' front-loaded,
three-year, $20 million offer
sheet for restricted free
agent J.J. Redick. It assures Matt Barnes' exit, however, and the tough, defense-minded forward is on the Bulls' radar.
Even with the $7 million of salary-cap space tied into the Redick offer sheet until the Magic make their decision by Friday, the Bulls possess roughly $6 million to pursue freeagent targets.
This amount also reflects the roughly $1 million earmarked for the signing of 7-foot Turkish center Omer Asik, the Bulls' 2008 draft-day acquisition.
Orlando's J.J. Redick reacts after a play. (Stephen M. Dowell / Orlando Sentinel)
Barnes could provide defense
and toughness while
backing up Luol Deng.
If signed, he also could
push Kyle Korver to split
shooting guard minutes
with either Redick or
whomever the Bulls sign
should the Magic match
the Redick offer.
The Bulls will introduce Korver at a 2:30 p.m. news conference Tuesday at the United Center.
The Bulls missed out on one long shot target they had explored when veteran point guard Derek Fisher re-signed with the Lakers.
The Bulls will introduce Korver at a 2:30 p.m. news conference Tuesday at the United Center.
The Bulls missed out on one long shot target they had explored when veteran point guard Derek Fisher re-signed with the Lakers.
Cute, Danny, very cute. I like the creative writing and spelling. Melo was born in Brooklyn, by the way. Not that we both need to get technical about hometown facts and grade school/high school history, but my original point was that he’s not coming to the Bulls and it would be a wasted effort to try. He will try to form another dream team alliance with Chris Paul as already speculated. The signs are already there and we’ll see how that plays out. I think Rose will have to learn how to do some NBA recruiting if he becomes that star that many project to be. Now whether the dynamic trio of GarPaxDorf will change their methods in free agency to include a player like Rose in their recruiting trips is another story. Plus, our very own K.C. Johnson here already reported and tweeted last night that the Magic are expected to match on Redick. I hope they don’t. Like I said before, you can never have enough dead-eye 3 shooters. Korver alone is not enough. If they lose Redick, they better go after Barnes and still find another shooter of Redick’s caliber. Let’s not forget a backup to Rose also… hopefully they make the pitch on Shaun Livingston who’s finally healed up.
Ok Edgar, Melo is from B'More not Nu Yawk and he stands a better chance staying home in the west since the west is considerably weaker with the exceptions of O.K. and the L dot A dot.I think it will depend on if coach Carl will be back also, but why would you want to face Chicago, Orlando, Miami and Boston on a regular basis? Thats a lot of pounding to get to the finals, especially with a DanPhony team thats unproven! Remember, Dan Phony couldn't get it done with Shaq, Amare, Nash, J Rich and G Hill, plus unlike here, that MSG crowd is unforgiving! It just doesn't seem like a good business choice. Now if he came here and assisted D Rose who now has shooters (Reddick is most def coming), big men, and presumably Matt Barnes on the defensive end all mixed with coaches defensive philosophy, it would be a lock! Unless melo is as boneheaded as his east coast brethren he'll decide to play for a winner or at least stay in Milehigh and have a decent chance!
I can't believe some of you guys are getting excited over Omir Asik. Come on fellas. Omir Asik? We're not talking about Shaq. We're not talking about Luis Scola. We're not talking about Tracy McGrady, shannon Brown or Matt Barnes. We talking about Omir Asik. Omir Asik? And you wonder why we can't compete for a championship. We got to be better than this. We are one more big time player away from being a contender and we talking about Omir Asik.
Why do I get the feeling that a lot of that cap space money is going to wind up in Reinsdorf's pocket.
I got news for Chicago Whiner: Ben Gordon will never win a championship for anyone. The Pistons gave him $50 million and he responded with 13.8 PPG, 1.9 bounds and 2.7 assists.
By the way, that Turkish website that Serious E put on his post has highight clips of Asik. He's a wild man - very athletic, runs the floor like a deer, blocks shots and drives to the hoop with ease. Granted, he is not playing against NBA players but this guy has all the tools. I could see him playing alongside Noah and that stiff Deng coming off the bench. That would give the Bulls a huge front line!
What’s going on, Keith!? Alright, I’ll cut to the chase with you… Melo will either sign with hometown NY or re-sign with Denver. Melo and CP3 will try their own triumvirant act at NY with Stoudemire. He’s not coming to the Bulls, period. He will use the organization in the negotiations just like Wade did. Forget it. The only way the Bulls win out next time with the elite FA’s is if Rose becomes that unstoppable force and NBA megastar and befriends the other younger stars of his age on the other teams. He’s going to have to become a cutthroat recruiter like Wade was. Unfortunately, the GarPaxDorf old school management will have to make their own adjustments as well in attacking free agency. I keep hearing and reading how they tried their best; they tried to trade Luol Deng but found no takers; they did all they could to sell the team to LeBron or Wade, blah blah blah… bottom line, they failed. Again. I said this last year, remember Keith? No excuses if they miss out on Wade or LeBron, especially with all the moves they did in the last several years leading up to this Summer. They simply fail to bring in the big stars from the outside. The pattern is already there. They only seem to be able to find that megastar through the draft by luck, whether it’s by ping pong balls (Rose) or an overlooked draft pick by another team (MJ). No pun intended here, but they were “out-slicked” by Pat Riley and Wade.
Look, I know they’ve done some decent moves in the last couple of weeks with Boozer, Korver and likely Redick to compensate for losing out. For this particular team, I’ve always liked Boozer over Bosh and Stoudemire because he’s a master of the pick & roll and he plays the 4 much more physical that I enjoy watching more than the finesse offensive game of Bosh, but if the result out of this Summer free agency is only Boozer as our #1 TOP FA acquisition after all the salary cap maneuvering in the last several years, then to me, that’s still a disappointment IMO. You know my history with this team, Keith. I’ve been following this team even before Reinsdorf came on board. I don’t blow smoke when it comes to GarPaxDorf formerly Jerry’s Kids (Krause). These guys are great at filling in the complimentary pieces with a roster, but they simply can’t sign that stud to take them over the top. Redick, Korver and whoever else they can to fill in as the athletic defensive stopper should be fine, but it’s not enough to let them off the hook. Now go find ‘em cheap, JR! That’s what they do best! B. Miller, Livingston, Barnes – no problem, get ‘em!
If the bulls do actually get Redick, they'll have more depth than ANY other team. They have all the components for success. An elite point guard in Rose, knock-down shooters in Korver and Redick, an all-around guy who can play defense in Deng, a low-post scorer in Boozer, and a workaholic in Noah. Not to mention a proven head coach, albeit at the assistant level. Now all the Bulls are missing is a championship!
If only the Bulls kept Ben Gordon, they'd win the championship!
Frankly, I hope the Bulls get JJ Redick. He's a great shooter and mentally tough. I went to an ACC school when Redick was at Duke and Redick used to get verbally ABUSED by non-Duke fans every time. Redick went through a verbal assault every time on the road. More times than not Redick would have a great shooting night with the crowd shouting "F&^% you JJ" while he was shooting free throws. Fans would put crap about JJ Redick on their T-shirts. Redick's a tough gym rat like Chris Mullins or Danny Ainge. To be where he is now regardless of the criticism is a credit to Redick. If Bulls want to get tougher JJ Redick would be a great addition.
I like Alex's Post! And you are absolutely correct. All athletes who can play defense. Why not go for it all?
Mello is the only player besides Paul Pierce and Kevin Durant I have seen compete with Kobe and the Lakers. Nothing wrong with moving on with the guys we have now, but if there is a chance to get a guy like Mello - you take the CHANCE! Dwight Howard is available in two years and I hope the Bulls make plans for him too. Gone are the days when one guy carries the entire load all by himself. Lebron, Kobe, Pierce, KG, Wade and Mello have tried that. It doesnt work. LA - got Gasol and hasn't looked back. Boston joined forces and so has Miami.
I am not interested in a valiant effort. I am interested in winning it all. Did yall like that Black Hawks parade??? Look at how they did it. Did you like the Whitesox parade??? Same philosophy. Sox are probably going to win again this year and the Blackhawks. They are built to win THIS year and the next! Thats a organizational philosophy.
Like the signings, but i would like to see the following happen, dont know how but they need to make it work. 1. Trade Deng for Caron Butler, sign brewer, barnes, s.brown & SHAQ as a backup for Noah. I know i am dreaming, but we would be very hard to stop, so what if we go over the luxury tax, you wanna beat the Heat, this will give you a good change, Shaq would punish Bosh down low all day long. If not go get MELO dammit! Im a dreamer hahahahahaha.
Thanks for the information on Asik, EuropeanBullsFan. I looked him up on Bulls confidential and he averaged 8.7 points, 6 rebounds and 1.4 assists in 21.7 minutes of playing time. He shot 61 percent from the field but only 36 percent from the line! He has suffered major injuries each of the last 2 seasons but is healthy now. Sounds like a decent backup.
Bulls still need a star. They are going to be fine as long as these contracts are reasonable and tradeable. They must get in the Mello sweepstakes for next year.
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No more waiting around for free agents, especially Carmelo, who may be the most over-rated "star" in the NBA. I think Rose has more star qualities than Carmello. Besides, Carmello, who is an East Coast guy, wants to take his talents to Manhattan, home of the NY Knicks. The Bulls shouldn't worry about next year; they should sign whoever they can, NOW--TODAY. Form the team, see how the team plays as the season progresses, and then tweek whatever needs to be tweeked. I'm tire of this perpetual rebuilding program. Boozer and Korver are nice, but not enough. We got the coach. We got the money. There are players out there ready to be signed. What are they waiting for? The Bulls are always so slow pulling the trigger. Miami is beatable. The Lakers are tired. And the Celtics are old. The team that wins the championship, next year, will be an energetic team that is willing to leave everything on the floor. The Bulls have a chance to build a team like that, but they don't have enough right now. Scola (he's worth a try), McGrady, Barnes, Kwame and Shannon Brown are all sitting by the phones. Call 'em.
Wrong BIG GUY. Redick gave Ray Allen fits in the series against the C's because he could dance around all those screens. He's got much quicker feet that people think, and he works his a-- off. Maybe he's quite at Captain Kirk's level of D, but may get there with Thibs . . . and he's twice as good as Kirk on the O side.
Now, Korver is another story. Great guy. Work hards. Helluva shooter. But if Thibs can make him into a half-decent defender, then dude is a genius!
WOW JJ REDICK he plays no defense and we got rid of BG becasue of salary cap and they told us he didn't play defense. Well we know JJ doesn't have the foot speed to play the type of defense that coach T will require. Sorry bad signing guys. Another subpar season.
VC? No! If even for a season, he's not worth it. Melo is staying in Denver, or going to NYC. So let's not hold out hope for another superstar coming here, a la Wade and LeBron.
We have one, and he's D Rose. Now, we just need a couple more pieces.
But Gortat? Oh, yes, please. But he will put over the cap, as he wants to be paid near starting center money. However, in my opinion, he'd also be worth it because then the Bulls become very physical and can contend with the Magic and the Celtics and push around the Heat!
JJ Redick will complement D Rose's game perfectly, btw, and sharpshooting Korver is exactly what we need off the bench. We need one more perimeter defender, like M Barnes, and one more big. Deng may not need to go, and he may prosper in this offense with legit 3-point shooters spreading the floor.
Also, Thibs is a huge upgrade at coach. That's almost forgotten in our players discussion. Bulls will play better D since we last had Pippen-MJ-Rodman/Grant-Harper/Armstrong! And now that we have a serious post scorer in Boozer and serious 3 point shooters (IF we land Redick), the Bulls will surprise many teams.
Phil and Edgar - miss you guys. Going to be a good season of hoops. Bulls still need a star. They are going to be fine as long as these contracts are reasonable and tradeable. They must get in the Mello sweepstakes for next year. Bulls got Boozer and that is progress. They get rid of Deng and that will be a major hurdle. I am hoping for a trade with the magic. Heard they desparately want to depart with VC and are willing to take Deng off our hands to do it. VC's contract is up next year and that money can be used to get Mello.
I want to see the Bulls get at least two athletes. Tony Allen, Matt Barnes, Shannon Brown will all do. I would love Gortat on the front line or Fabricio Oberto. I would even take Scola. Brad Miller is not done. If he can be had for a small contract do it.
I really like the moves the Bulls have made recently. My hunch is that they will be better off without any of the primadonnas the Heat signed. Go Bulls!
Rex – knowing how GarPaxDorf operates, they are likely not going to go above the $58 million cap. They will leave themselves space to possibly to do some trading during the season and before the trade deadline. That’s how they operate and until they prove otherwise, I don’t see them going above that cap in offseason free agency alone. Reinsdorf has already gone on record as saying that he will pay the luxury tax penalty only if they had a bonafide Championship roster. I certainly would have loved to see JR back those words up if we landed LeBron along with Booz, but as it stands now, I don’t think this current roster is that close and certainly not strong enough to win a title next season. Improved roster? Yes, and possibly even improved enough to pass the 2nd round of the Playoffs, but not Championship caliber and I’m pretty sure that’s the out (excuse) for JR to not enter luxury tax territory or even close to it at this time. I’m with you on Kwame Brown though. Why not if he can agree to sign cheap, but I doubt he’ll do that at his age. Someone will pay him. Brad Miller is the best option, but I too am concerned if he will be in shape to go another season or if he still has the passion to play the game over his hunting hobbies at home. I’ll take his out of shape basketball IQ over Kwame Brown turnovers and missed assignments any day. Jury is still out on Omer Asik if he’s another Dragan Tarlac or Dalibor Bagaric, but nevertheless, they would be crazy to go into training camp without a veteran backup center to Noah, cap or no cap space.
Israel on July 12, 2010 10:19 PM
Can we sign Carl Malone, and Charles Barkley to a contract? Those are some big bodies.
Izzy: Boozer is about as big as you can get without having to wear pads and a helmet.
First of all, english is my second langauge. Asik is 211 cm (7 feet?), injury-prone, not a big scorer, but athletic, hard-nose defender, and hard-worker, big bsketball-iq. He averaged more blocks, 3.2 per game, than any Euroleague player in any phase of the competition in the previous five years.
Good question STK. Jury is out on Asik. Check out this hilarious Turkish story about him coming to bulls:
http://www.nationalturk.com/en/nbas-chicago-bulls-transfer-fenerbahce-ulker-centre-omer-asik-356873592
Looks like he's had serious knee issues, already. Red flag! And that he's only 6'9" . . .but other sites have him as a stud at 6'11".
Just as long as he's better than the Knick's new mystery man, the Russian giant Timofey Mozgov!!
Does anybody know anything about this Asik guy? Is he any good? I keep seeing his name mentioned in these stories but the writers are too lazy to actually say anything about him except that he's 7 feet tall. So is Will Perdue but he was a stiff.
Man, some folks on this board who don't know ball! Boozer a stiff? Redick sucks? Noah only an energy guy? Yeah, that's why their teams didn't want to let them go. Redick is on his way up. He was the Magic's best player against the Celtics. He made Van Gundy sit VC down. He works his butt off, has become a good defensive player, and can even get into the lane. Oh, he's also one of the league's best shooters. (And I hated the guy in college, because I hate Duke.)
Boozer is one of the skilled big men in the league, and a top 4 rebounder. Noah is one of the most intelligent big men to come along in a while, and his PER is off the charts. You win with him on the floor, even when his stats don't jump out at you.
Next move? Barnes. He can guard 2s and 3s, can shoot 3s, and is 6'7". He's perfect because he can slide into the 2 or 3 position, which Redick and Korver will also play.
And stay away from these guys. Q Rich is the stiff. S Livingston will never be good again. B Miller is done.
STK, I share your feelings and the conspiracy theories. The Heat roster reeks of some kind of cap manipulation, collusion and shenanigans behind the scenes (after the big 3, they can still sign Mike Miller and U. Haslem – ridiculous!), but no way to prove anything and I would bet someone like Stern loves nothing more than the attention for the NBA and the hype this will all lead into the NBA playoffs next year, so I highly doubt he’d do anything about it. The Magic and Cavs have already “mysteriously” declined an appeal for a tampering probe, but they probably knew it was a losing battle to begin with. As for Korver, he is what he is, a 3 point specialist with some size. You can’t knock it, but no one is saying he’s the next coming of Larry Bird. Besides, I’m going on the assumption that the Bulls are not yet done with the FA’s even after Redick and Korver. If all we’re getting at the end of the day on the SG depth chart is Redick, Korver and James Johnson, then I’ll be disappointed, but we’ll have to wait a few more weeks.
Suckers- who said anything about winning Championships with this current roster? The Bulls didn’t sign any of the big 3, so what do you want the diehards to do, give up on the team completely? Wow, I sure miss the meatball fans!
Rose, Noah, Boozer, Korver, and Reddick, nice...they all look good in RED, yeah baby!
@ alan, Wade, James and Bosh can opt out of their deals after da fourth year and i think they said da 5th year 2. I think Pat Reilly set these contracts up knowing that there is a chance that things might not work out da way they planned it.
No He set up this deal to give them MORE flexibility for taking WAY LESS MONEY. Get your facts str8
Have fun following the Bulls and watching them get bounced out of the 2nd round for the next 5 years. You guys really think you're going to win a championship because you signed 2 guys from the Jazz? Get real.
I hope Orlando matches this overpaid deal for Reddick. The guy is not athletic isn't a starter and still hasn't lived up to the hype coming out of college. I wish we signed Q Richardson cause he hits 3s and plays D. Also Anthony Morrow would have been a young piece to grow next to Rose. We need guys that are gonna play D first that is why we should sign Brewer and Barnes. We still need a backup point guard and center and there isn't much out there. Shannon Brown played point for the Lakers and would be a good pickup as a combo guard. We should have signed Tony Allen cause he is a combo guard with very good D. I like Marcus Camby as a big body to play D and grab rebounds. He gives us better insurance than Asik who is a rookie in the NBA. Why not give John Scheyer a look as an undrafted free agent add to the whole Duke alum on the Bulls. Livingston is another guy worth a look cause we need PGs after Rose.
Sign ADAM MORRISON to back up Luol Dung. HE can shoot! ADAM MORRISON!
Talk about manipulating the cap?! The Heat have signed everybody and his brother and with each multi-million-dollar signing they claim the signee took less money so they could stay under the "cap." The next thing you know they'll be signing Kobe Bryant with the stipulation that he take a $5,000 a year pay cut so they can squeeze him in under the imaginary "cap." I think David Stern needs to buy a new calculator. In any event, if the Bulls don't sign Redick the dumping of Captain Kirk and the 17th pick will be a huge miscalculation. I don't know why everyone seems to be excited about this Korver signing. Personally, I can't get too enthralled with a guy whose stat sheet last year looked like this: 7.2/2.1/1.7. I hope Kyle didn't get overly winded racking up those "impressive" numbers.
I like the move to acquire Redick for not only the Bulls, but the tactic to force the Magic's hand in either matching the offer and risk tying themselves up in salary cap flexibility throughout the entire season or find an alternative which they apparently did with signing Q Richardson. It's a smart and shrewd move by Bulls management, something I typically don't give them too much credit for often. Plus, you can never have too many dead-eye 3 pt gunners. However, I'm assuming that the Bulls are not done addressing the 2 position. While Korver and Redick are fine, obviously they still need more size, athleticism + overall talent at the position. There are too many star NBA players at the 2 to just live with Redick and Korver and it's too big a gamble to hope that James Johnson will break out in his 2nd season, but I'm sure they are counting on him to make some serious progress in the Summer League games. I liked Tony Allen, but he recently signed with the Grizzlies. Matt Barnes, Ronnie Brewer or even Shaun Livingston cheap to help back up Rose.
Keith, Phil --- is that really you, guys? I have returned blogging!!
You guys are morons Hinrich sucks.
Redick is a good defender and is 6'4 tall.
He can shoot and play PG as well as SG.
Hinrich can't do either.
lol
Sounds like the Heat should win 4 titles in the next 3 years with these new Heat players that were just signed. They might even be allowed to win two titles in one year.
Seriously, there should be some interesting playoff games in the Eastern conference with no team having an overwhelming advantage over the other contenders.
Scola? you funny, zero chance of landing him, paying luxury tax for him and playing him on the bench with Taj already there.
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Signing Scola would not put the Bulls into a luxury tax situation. Right now, the Bulls have spent 44 million. the salary cap is 58 million. But the luxury tax starts at 69 million. So the bulls have about 24 million to spend before the luxury tax kicks in. It won't be easy to sign Redick and Scola. But if they are serious about winning a championship they need to figure out how to manipulate the cap the way the Celtics, Lakers, Spurs and Mavs do.
pretty sad when someone on here thinks kwame brown equals a championship team. WOW!
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That's what people said last year about Ron Artest. No one expects Kwame Brown to start, but at a dirt cheap price, he would add size and a defensive presence. He is still only 28 years old. Noah needs a back-up. Who else is out there? And please don't say Brad Miller. He finished. Don't be surprise if Kwame signs with the heat.
pretty sad when someone on here thinks kwame brown equals a championship team. WOW!
Don't be surprised if Orlando plans to do a sign and trade of Reddick and Matt Barnes and maybe a draft pick for Deng. The Bulls would get a defensive presence in Barnes that can guard 2s and 3s, a spread the floor shooter in Reddick, and still have the cap space to go after Miller and Brewer. Orlando already has Q Rich coming in, and the would get solid 3 in Deng instead of losing Barnes and Reddick for nothing.
If you compare Heinrich's O and D to Reddick's do you see a step up? I sure don't. We should have gotten Morrow and taken a step UP. Too late, if we get away from Reddick, Trade for a 2-guard that BETTER THAN HEINRICH or REDDICK and take the step UP we need. Go for it!!! oh yea, and sign Brewer. He will be a GREAT insurance policy thru 82 games. Comments?????
Scola? you funny, zero chance of landing him, paying luxury tax for him and playing him on the bench with Taj already there.
We have 4 bigs with Taj, Noah, Boozer and Asik. It would be nice to add another but not sure if they will (outside of someone like Richards - on the dirt cheap)
Bulls I think will go after a bigger defensive minded 2, or a 2-3 hybrid. Surprised we did not go after QRich or Tony Allen at all (TA had to be in coach T's good graces and he was pretty cheap)
Hoping for Shannon Brown or Josh Howard, Brad Miller would be the cherry on top - but I cant see us going over tax
Though the bulls started this free agency season with a couple of smart moves, they are letting their opportunities slip away. The way to beat the Heat and the way to compete against the Celtics, Magic and Lakers is to stack up on size. The Bulls should try to sign Luis Scola. Kwame brown is an option. Tracy McGrady may have had a setback, but he is worth a try. The bigger the team the better its chances for success. If the Bulls stand pack with what they now have (including Redick), they will become a 50 win team and a second round loser. If a second round exit is all they are striving to be, then why bother? Scola, Kwame, McGrady equals a chance at a championship. Sign them.
Can we sign Carl Malone, and Charles Barkley to a contract? Those are some big bodies.
Can we sign Carl Malone, and Charles Barkley to a contract?
@ alan, Wade, James and Bosh can opt out of their deals after da fourth year and i think they said da 5th year 2. I think Pat Reilly set these contracts up knowing that there is a chance that things might not work out da way they planned it.
Hey Reinsdorf. There's no reason not to consider JJ the gun off the bench. Spewnd more $$$. I read the Bulls are interested in Shannon Brown. He would be a great starting 2. Korver is not a guard, and neither he or JJ can guard the likes of Kobe or Roy. Shannon has quick feet, and I don't have to remind anyone that guy can leap. Get him. The Lakers can't afford him.
actually we need T-MAC he is an experience player and he know the play off and can defence in player like wade or lebron .
he will accept any deal come from chicago because the bulls are abig team and this is his last chance to play in abig team .
Van Gundy can't be serious 6'4" Richardson would be competing for the starting SF spot come on what's he smoking just admit it you guys are letting Redick go and the Bulls are getting him so stop playing stupid ass games and release him over to us.
I don't know how the Heat will end up but I believe Riley will be on the bench at some point. A good defense can neutralize Bosh and Wade. The X-factor of course is Lebron not Bosh and everyone knows it despite all the crap from Wade.
I say let Lebron shoot his eyeballs out from the perimeter and see how that plays with Wade. The only fireworks the Heat will generate will come from their bench when the three divas realize this ain't gonna work. Bosh will be first to request a trade since he'll be practically persona non grata in this offensive scheme.
Imagine every team bringing their A game to them night after night after night.
I have a hard time believing Orlando will pay $28 million over two years for a backup two guard.
Otis knows whether he's going to re-sign JJ. He's waiting until last minute in order to block the Bulls from making further deals in the interim. These GMs know the Bulls are quitely putting together a decent team.
Actually, they are actually only technically signed for three years, and then can opt out at anytime thereafter...if they don't get one in three years, expect this circus all over again with major apologies to all the teams they burned this time around...
the men who make the big bucks posting odds in Vegas seem to think this Bulls teams (prior to signing two solid shooting guards) had the fourth best chance to win the title this upcoming season.
Heat will win only 1 or 2 championships in the next 6 years. I promise you that. Paul the Octopus said so.....
from orlando sentinel
Van Gundy said that Richardson will compete with Mickael Pietrus for the starting small-forward spot.
"I'm going into training camp open-minded as far as what we'll do there," Van Gundy said.
He might also be working in a new shooting guard if the Magic don't retain J.J. Redick. Van Gundy said that it is his understanding that Richardson's signing will not directly impact the Magic's decision to match the Chicago Bulls' three-year, $19 million offer for Redick.
The Magic have until Friday to match the Bulls' offer because Redick is a restricted free agent.
Ownership is mulling over whether to take an additional luxury tax hit this season to keep Redick. The Bulls' offer is a front-loaded deal.
General Manager Otis Smith did not immediately return a call from the Sentinel. Smith said Saturday that he "anticipates" retaining Redick, but would take time to evaluate it.
The club could make a trade in order to reduce the tax burden, perhaps sending back-up center Marcin Gortat or little-used power forward Brandon Bass in a salary dump. Not a likely scenario. They also could trade one or the other — or both — to acquire a shooting guard if they decide against retaining Redick.
After the big 3 there is a big drop in free agent talent. No more max free agents. The Bulls are doing there best in finding secondary bench talent because, frankly, that's all there is. Luckily, the Bulls have DRose and Noah and now Boozer to build around. They don't have supreme scorers but their bench is going to be killer and a big part of the Bulls' scoring. I have no problem with the Bulls building around DRose. If the Bulls get JJ Redick that leaves them around $6 mil. with $1 mil. going to Omer Asik. The Bulls then would have $5 mil. for 3 more bench players and 3 practice players if they wanted.
The "Big Three" in Miami have not played a single game yet but now they have 4, 5 or even 6 rings all wrapped up?
Really?
This is not a video game and there have been plenty of teams that had three all-star players who were lucky to win just one ring together.
Players with less ego and more maturity than this bunch of drama queens.
After the 76ers added Charles Barkley to a team that already had Moses Malone, Julius Erving, Andrew Toney, Maurice Cheeks and Bobby Jones it took them 18 years to get back to the finals.
Teams on paper don't mean anything.
You have to play the games and you have to win one title before you can even think of repeating.
Only a fool would dub a team a "Dynasty" before they win a single game together.
Lebron,wade and bosh are signed for 6 years not 5 and the bulls have kyle korver,boozer and maybe jj redick whoop de doo.Bulls wont be winning no titles in the near future.Be happy we got 6 in the 90's its not like the bulls are a great organization like the lakers who consistently win.If we never got MJ we wouldn't have nothin be real.
Grover, you're an idiot!!!!
a point guard that cant shoot?????
-did you watch any bulls games last season.
a stiff at the 4????
- u mean all-star caliber stiff??, wake up!!
redick sucks?? he's not great, but he's coming around, did you see him in the post season?
u have every right to dog lou, but without the pressure to score, i think he'll be fine this year (but still waaaayyy overpaid)
and yes, backups are needed, but its very early in FA. .u didnt mention that we'll have a starter coming off the bench in Taj...and players that can consistantly knock down the three unlike last year.............calm down!!!
GO BULLS!!!! (true fan)
Shaun Livingston is a 6'7" point guard, is he worth a look?
BREWER AND NATE ROBINSON are still available, people have some faith. Anything is better than Hinrick!
I think this Bulls team is going to be historically bad. An "energy guy" with no talent at center, a stiff in Boozer at PF, Deng at SF(need I say more?), 2 slow guys that cannot defend at the 2 guard, and a point guard that can't shoot the outside shot. Also no backups at center, Small forward or point guard. Someone was laughing at the Heat because they don't have 12 players. The Bulls only have 7 with Redick, who sucks by the way. This "trade away everybody to get free agents" plan was mind-numbingly stupid. I usually look forward to the Bulls season, since the late 60's. I can't wait for it to be over before it even starts.
I think this Bulls team is going to be historically bad. An "energy guy" with no talent at center, a stiff in Boozer at PF, Deng at SF(need I say more?), 2 slow guys that cannot defend at the 2 guard, and a point guard that can't shoot the outside shot. Also no backups at center, Small forward or point guard. Someone was laughing at the Heat because they don't have 12 players. The Bulls only have 7 with Redick, who sucks by the way. This "trade away everybody to get free agents" plan was mind-numbingly stupid. I usually look forward to the Bulls season, since the late 60's. I can't wait for it to be over before it even starts.
I would agree is not an ideal starter, but look at the roster and who is available at the position. I think this will be the weak spot on our roster, especially from a defensive perspective. Yes we also need a back up PG. Again options are limited for a defensive minded PG. That said I say play to a strength offensively and go for Nate. We will still need a defensive minded SG who can create match-up problems. (Is Ronnie Brewer still available?)
JJ is a nice shooter coming off the Bench, but he and Korver are the same animal. He is not a starter, he lacks the size, length and feet for his position, he can't penitrate and being as small as he is on the wing will be a defensive problem for the bulls. He is not athletic enough either. He can't play above the rim, he will not get you any blocks, or steals, and he is not much of a passer.
He is Steve Kerr except Kerr was a better passer, and shooter. You stick these bench players on the court for to long and they get exposed. We got Hinrich back.
HEY IT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD IF WE GET JJ. BUT WE STILL NEED A STARTING SG . I DONT SEE JJ AS A STARTER. A GOOD BENCH PLAYER. BUT WE NEED A BIGGER GUARD AT THE 2 SPOT THE CAN GUARD SOMEBODY AND IS NOT A LIABILTY !! LET ME KNOW IF I'M WRONG .
Heat may win a championship.
Right now they have no one to even partially contain Dwight Howard, let alone Gasol and Bynum.
If this Turkish center works out for Chicago, Bulls will have superior size on the Heat too.
Heat is starting to look like the Suns. It will score a lot of points and win a lot of regular season games. It will be hard to in play off time unless it can get some size inside.
@ RKA83
I completely agree. History shows that you must have a good bench to win and the big 3 will have to play 60 minutes each to win.
I agree with ownership that the bulls are a better team than Miami right now!
Glad to have JJ in a Bulls uniform next
...hopefully.
Nice Block by Orlando. The Heat were targeting "Q" to come in as a Minimum Salary contract.
I love that the rest of the league is working to block the DB-migos from getting the players they want.
- Q to Magic
- Haslem to Denver
- C'mon LA and don't hold out on Fisher.
Paul, they are only signed for 4 years how can they win 5 titles? They have to get past the Celtics, Bulls (Noah almost was an alstar, Rose was and alstar and Booser is a 2 time alstar) and the Lakers not to mention Orlando, I see some hard fouls coming between the Florida franchises. Bron- Bron and howard are going to do some fighting.
Paul on July 12, 2010 1:51 PM
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does it really matter the Heat are gonna win the next 5 Titles.
Richardson is on the down slide of his career, so I'll welcome Reddick. Now we need a back up point guard right?
Hubris, Miami Heat fans, Hubris. It is a wonderful thing as it always precedes one's downfall.
J.J. Will be resigned by Orlando. To be cont. on Fri....
Thats right RKA - you are talking about 2 very good players and one soft unproven one. Noah and Bruiser are going to take his lunch money. And Rose is going to give whoever they got the business. Wade and Lebron can't shoot at the same time, and they better not miss.
THEY ARE NOT MJ, SCOTTIE AND WORM. They are not even KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. They are some wannabees for now. A gimmick!
@Paul let's not hand Miami the title yet. They don't even have 12 players yet. 3 Stars and 9 scrubs don't make a championship team.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does it really matter the Heat are gonna win the next 5 Titles.
If there really ever was any doubt Reddick was coming to Chicago they should be erased now.
J.J welcome to Chicago.
J.J welcome to Chicago.